Please chant the Maha-Mantra HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE, dance, honor prasadam and your life will be sublime in all respects and at the end we go Back Home Back to Godhead! This is called BHAKTI YOGA, the topmost yoga system!
“Indirectly, it is the practice of Krishna consciousness, because when advanced in such performances of yajnas, one is sure to become Krishna conscious.”
Hayagriva:
“Indirectly, it is the practice of Krishna consciousness, because when ONE MASTERS THE performance of yajnas, one is sure to become Krishna conscious.”
Jayadvaita:
“Indirectly, it is the practice of Krishna consciousness, because when ONE MASTERS THE performance of yajnas, one is sure to become Krishna conscious.”
Hayagriva has the supreme audacity to unecessarily correct Srila Prabhupada, the World Acharya, by increasing the degree of force of Srila Prabhupada’s statement. From “being advanced”, it becomes “when one masters.” The two are not equal. One who is advanced only in a subject matter has not yet mastered the subject matter. Besides that, in Srila Prabhupada’s version it is typically easier to become Krishna conscious, whereas in the current and official version both Hayagriva and Jayadvaita want to make people sweat to become Krishna conscious. And sweat for whom? Sweat for themselves of course, sweat for their own benefit, these lazy rascals.
And Jayadvaita, in his great wisdom, does not actively correct the deviation, as his duty of second editor calls for, but instead rubber stamps the Prabhupada offence, thus making himself and everyone else in ISKCON and the BBT an accomplice of the plot to change or modify Srila Prabhupada’s absolute message, thus cheating the whole world out of Prabhupada’s real words. To modify unnecessarily Srila Prabhupada’s message and without authority is the greatest crime of manipulation against humanity. Such is the vitality, importance and relevance of the benevolent Prabhupada Vani. The benevolent Prabhupada Vani is so essential to the positive and healthy future of the planet!
In plain words, this is here the following unspoken message:
“Really Srila Prabhupada, you are an old family fool and idiot. Please get out of our way. We, your up and coming western disciples, we know better and we shall fix it all. You please just shut up. You don’t even know your English properly. What to speak of expressing yourself properly. Just trust us, your so-called Western disciples.”
That is a very offensive attitude and a very offensive action by all standards to which I CANNOT AGREE. This is exactly where our paths part. This is were the red line lies. You ISKCON and BBT people ought to be reformed by ALL POSSIBLE MEANS to save you from the hell were GURU APARADHIS live, especially the hell where Srila Prabhupada aparadhis live.
The first step and probably the most important step of reform will be for the ISKCON authorities to repudiate officially, immediately and without further delay Freewheeling Bhagavad Gita As It Is Not (or FBGAIIN) by Jayadvaita and go back to the drawing board of Srila Prabhupada Original Transcript (OT), as I have also been trying to do myself. Once this is done everything may fall into place.
The point being that anyone who supports in anyway, anyone of these two polluted and corrupted versions of Bhagavad Gita As It Is becomes automatically enveloped in this offensive mentality and hallo generated by both editors, Hayagriva and Jayadvaita. Lets get out off this quick before it is too late! Let’s get out before the building crumbles.
Bhagavad Gita As It Is, version 3, 2.49 exhorts:
“2.49. O Dhananjaya, keep all abominable activities at a far distant place by dint of devotional service, and in such consciousness, try to surrender unto Him. Those who want to enjoy the fruits of work are misers.”
The world evolves and some things just disappear, just like the sickle. This is the inexorable march of time to which we are subservient. It is hard to acquire a sickle. Is it because sickle and hammer are the symbol of communism? Negative, because hammers are available is unlimited numbers and shape. But sickle is really hard to get. But a sharp sickle is extremely handy to cut grass. This more or less brings us back to agrarian societies. I am sure in India sickles are easy to get, even good quality ones. The same may apply to China. But this is more or less wishful thinking and not based on practical experience. It is not experimental knowledge.
“Labourage et pâturage sont les deux mamelles de la France.” These words were vibrated by Maximilien de Béthune, duc de Sully (1559-1641), in the year 1638, while talking with King Henri the fourth, as a tribute to the agricultural sector. Srila Prabhupada always stressed the fact that fruits, vegetables and grains can not be manufactured in factories where inedible nuts and bolts are manufactured. He also encouraged us to acquire land to create a self-sufficient life style. And Iskcon has in fact established many such successful communities around the world. The cow and the bull play a very important function in this regard. The cow’s body is a machine with grass input and milk output. That is a very profitable machine.
Is the fact that Srila Prabhupada uses the expression “a self realised, Krishna conscious man” in OT purport a sufficient reason to replace His own expression ” A self realised person (in Krishna consciousness)” in the OT verse itself with “A self-realized man (in Krishna Consciousness)? Here again Srila Prabhupada with His contradictory statements prompts us to think hard. Due to the sensitive nature of the topic, we believe it is NOT a sufficient reason and we shall call both editors sexists. Besides that why did they drop the two expressions “Krishna conscious” and “Krishna consciousness”. That is not at all acceptable either and we shall call them lacking in their Krishna consciousness for this blunt and flagrant Krishna neglect.
And for the sake of the same balance between verse and purport sought in both editions V1 and V2 previously and considering the times we live in, we shall move in the opposite direction and replace Prabhupada’s “A self-realized, Krishna conscious MAN has no longer any obligation to fulfil to any prescribed duty, save and except the activities in terms of Krishna consciousness.” of the purport with Prabhupada’s own expression in the verse itself “A self-realized, Krishna conscious PERSON has no longer any obligation to fulfil to any prescribed duty, save and except the activities in terms of Krishna consciousness.” Srila Prabhupada, I hope I am passing your test successfully and I know that you are a progressive and sometimes revolutionary philosophic-religious-scientific innovator. All glories to you! When I offer them Your Bhagavad Gita, people often ask me point blank: Is this a religion? It seems I have just found the very correct answer to this people’s question. Yours is a “pilosophic-religious and scientific ideology.” It is not a religion in the traditional sense of the term. My MacBook Pro Dictionary gives for religion:
“religion | rɪˈlɪdʒ(ə)n | noun [mass noun] the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods: “
Krishna Consciousness is not just a belief!
I can believe anything I like and the crazy person will believe any crazy thing he or she likes. Does that make it a reality? Obviously not. It is only a clever strategy for the atheist to advertise religion as a “belief”only, thus making it totally a subjective subject matter, outside the realm of reason and science. But they are wrong! They are wrong at least as far as Krishna consciousness is concerned and Srila Prabupada has clearly proven this fact by debating and defeating all opposing elements. And as His representatives we must be able and willing to do the same.
This is in line with Srila Prabhupada’s statement in purport of BGAII 3.3:
In the Second Chapter, verse 39, the Lord explained two kinds of procedures — namely sankhya-yoga and karma-yoga, or buddhi-yoga. In this verse, the Lord explains the same more clearly. Sankhya-yoga, or the analytical study of the nature of spirit and matter, is the subject matter for persons who are inclined to speculate and understand things by experimental knowledge and philosophy. The other class of men work in Krsna consciousness, as it is explained in the 61st verse of the Second Chapter. The Lord has explained, also in the 39th verse, that by working by the principles of buddhi-yoga, or Krsna consciousness, one can be relieved from the bonds of action; and, furthermore, there is no flaw in the process. The same principle is more clearly explained in the 61st verse — that this buddhi-yoga is to depend entirely on the Supreme (or more specifically, on Krsna), and in this way all the senses can be brought under control very easily. Therefore, both the yogas are interdependent, as religion and philosophy. Religion without philosophy is sentiment, or sometimes fanaticism, while philosophy without religion is mental speculation. The ultimate goal is Krsna, because the philosophers who are also sincerely searching after the Absolute Truth come in the end to Krsna consciousness. This is also stated in the Bhagavad-gita. The whole process is to understand the real position of the self in relation to the Superself. The indirect process is philosophical speculation, by which, gradually, one may come to the point of Krsna consciousness; and the other process is directly connecting everything with Krsna in Krsna consciousness. Of these two, the path of Krsna consciousness is better because it does not depend on purifying the senses by a philosophical process. Krsna consciousness is itself the purifying process, and by the direct method of devotional service it is simultaneously easy and sublime. (This passage is from version 2 and will still have to pass the Version 3 test. Unfortunately this is not possible for the time being as Original Tanscript is missing for now)
The communists have their ideology. The capitalist have their own ideology and conflict with one another. His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, the Founder of the International Hare Krishna Movement, the Bhaktivedanta Book Trust (BBT) and Back to Godhead Magazine (BTG) offers the synthesis of both with His very own philosophic-religious dialectism and ideology.
Proposed final versions three for BGAII 3.18:
Verse.
A self-realized person (in Krishna consciousness) has no purpose to fulfil while executing his prescribed duties, nor has he any reason not to perform such work. Nor has he any need to take shelter of any other living being. (This is Srila Prabhupada’s own style of expression in particular in regard to the use of “person” and pronouns attached to the word.)
Purport.
A self-realized, Krishna conscious person has no longer any obligation to fulfil in regard to any prescribed duty, save and except the activities in terms of Krishna consciousness. Neither represents such Krishna consciousness inactivity, as it will be explained in the following verses. A Krishna conscious person does not take shelter of any other person–man or demigod. Whatever he does in terms of Krishna consciousness is sufficient in the discharge of his obligation.
or alternatively in gender neutrality:
A self-realized person (in Krishna consciousness) has no purpose to fulfil while executing its prescribed duties, nor has it any reason not to perform such work. Nor has it any need to take shelter of any other living being.
Purport.
A self-realized, Krishna conscious person has no longer any obligation to fulfil in regard to any prescribed duty, save and except the activities in terms of Krishna consciousness. Neither represents such Krishna consciousness inactivity, as it will be explained in the following verses. A Krishna conscious person does not take shelter of any other person–man or demigod. Whatever it does in terms of Krishna consciousness is sufficient in the discharge of its obligation.
Just recently I have received advise from an authorised source that
“In the Sanskrit dictionary, mahātmā can be masculine, feminine, or neuter” Similarly a person can be a male of a female but for all practical purposes the word “person” should be a neuter and be represented by the pronoun “it”. So it all makes grammatical sense and we are herewith reforming the English language as well. Please be prepared to move your border / frontier anchors and get accustomed to it.
After everything is said and done my final inclination is as follows:
3.18 A self-realized person (in Krishna consciousness) has no purpose to fulfil while executing his prescribed duties, nor has he any reason not to perform such work. Nor has he any need to take shelter of any other living being.
Purport.
A self-realized, Krishna conscious man has no longer any obligation to fulfil in respect to any prescribed duty, save and except the activities in terms of Krishna consciousness. Neither represents such Krishna consciousness inactivity, as it will be explained in the following verses. A Krishna conscious man does not take shelter of any person–man or demigod. Whatever he does in terms of Krishna consciousness is sufficient in the discharge of his obligations.
Let us just stick to Srila Prabhupada as tightly as possible. The principles of editing being as follow:
Modify Prabhupada’s rendition only if there is no alternative. Twist OUR OWN MINDS IF WE HAVE TO to understand what Srila Prabhupada wants to say. Don’t add non Prabhupada text as Hayagriva and Jayadvaita are doing. This is the symptom of an uncontrolled mind. Don’t subtract for ultimate motives. Don’t modify unnecessarily.
Here in OT BGAII 3.17, Srila Prabhupada positively sets up a trap for all foolish editors to come, and Jayadvaita walks right into it like a foolish animal that he actually is. What Jayadvaita subsequently renders as BGAII 3.17 also makes him look like a total monist and philosophically a fool as well, more epithets that he consequently deserves. So altogether impersonalist, monist, usurper, traitor and pretender, and above all, philosophically speaking, a FOOL.
Actually Jayadvaita has no principles whatsoever. He only works for his vanity. And his thinking is purely reactive: meaning to say if Hayagriva writes black or right, Jayadvaita out of his smart ass mentality will sometimes write white or left. This is just about the apogee of his thinking. There is nothing beyond that in Jayadvaita’s mind. His first principle is to bluff and mislead the innocent, the GBC and the whole world as well, and to impudently pretend he knows better than Srila Prabhupada. What a Maha-Aparadhi! What a Maha-offender at the lotus feet of his Guru, Srila Prabhupada! And so far he is successful in his foolish enterprise. Who is going to stop him and when is he going to be stopped?
He is a third class man or Vaisya, representative of his community, trying to be a first class man or Brahmin. Nothing wrong with that. It’s an open competition and every willing player gets his chance. It’s a bit like in a svayamvara ceremony. He is trying to be a peacock but in reality he is a crow only and always will be. Again from this particular instance, we may say that the Governing Body of ISKCON, who adopted Freewheeling Bhagavad Gita As It Is NOT by Jayadvaita in 19?? or 20?? did not display much due diligence either.
Hayagriva, however, being much more intelligent and much smarter than Jayadvaita gets it right. All glories to him. Despite superficial defects of BGAII V1, this episode represents the undeniable proof that BGAII V 1 is much better than BGAII V2 by Jayadvaita and the GBC of Iskcon should without further delay revert to it as the official version. In French high school we used to call this “la preuve par 9” or undeniable proof. Not quite sure where the expression comes from though. Would be interesting to find out. What’s it got to do with 9?
The collective GBC must have thought: “This is new and we need a change. Let’s adopt it. Whatever is new is good! All glories to our deepest wisdom! We shall worry about eventual problems later. This “later” is here now!” What a throughout thoughtless philosophy and action!!! How many times did Srila Prabhupada strongly chastise this merry-go-round mentality, how many times?
To correct this mistake the Governing Body Commission of ISKCON (the GBC) ought to immediately and officially revert to Hayagriva’s version one of Bhagavad Gita As It Is. It is the very best we have at this time, there is no doubt about that.
The most crucial question therefore is:
WHEN IS THE GBC OF ISKCON GOING TO WAKE UP TO IT and once and for all STOP THIS NONSENSE??? GBC of ISKCON, you are misleading the whole world by your wrong choice of Bhagavad Gita. And the whole world will fight back at you. This is the law of karma. You better be prepared for that impact. The sooner you act the better. But the consequences are accumulating still. Therefore there is great urgency and the best time to act is NOW!!! Please immediately and officially retract the appropriate resolution on the adoption of Freewheeling Bhagavad Gita As It Is NOT by Jayadvaita and revert to Bhagavad Gita As It Is by Hayagriva. There is no alternative. Just do it!!!
Srila Prabhupada remains as cool headed as ever. He must be laughing. Srila Prabhupada is a great mystic. No one can cheat Him. You try to cheat Him and you will only cheat yourself. You think you outmanoeuvred him. But he tricked you big time. You are lying on your back in the mud, covered with cow stool and urine, which is very auspicious indeed. Hopefully it will get you to your proper senses. And the world is laughing at you: “Well done, well done. What a farce this ISKCON! Serves you right for betraying its founder.” The so called “karmis” understand very well the concepts of faithfulness and loyalty which you have abandoned. Field Marshal Erwin Rommel was asked to commit suicide because he was perceived to having betrayed the Fuhrer, Mr. Hitler. And as a professional soldier, he did it.
Let me ask you two simple questions:
Most important question One:
“Is everyone of the 30 or so GBC members strictly chanting 16 rounds minimum of Japa daily?” What is your answer? I am challenging you! What is your answer please??? Those who don’t chant at least 16 rounds of japa daily are disqualified from being members of the GBC board.
Question two:
” Is everyone of the 30 or so GBC members strictly following the four regulative principles of no ILLICIT SEX, NO GAMBLING, NO INTOXICATION,. and NO EATING OF MEAT, FISH or EGGS. Again I am challenging you. What is your answer please???? We hope that everyone is following the four regulative principles but those who don’t are not qualified to be members of the GBC board.
Let us see some ACTION NOW, PLEASE!!!
I am now starting to understand what sometimes seems to be some mysterious, contradictory and consequently baffling translator’s and commentator’s strategies by Srila Prabhupada and need to scrutinisingly redouble my attention and concentration on the Original Transcript (OT) by Srila Prabhupada. Thank you Srila Prabhupada for your tests.
The Sunshine Coast, and especially its northern Noosa side, situated 150 km or so north of Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, needs a responsible, all in one Hare Krishna restaurant manager, cook, Krishna conscious individual.
Following the 5 regs is a must:
One and overall most important: Chanting at least 16 rounds of Japa mala beads daily or 1728 Hare Krishna Maha Mantras.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.
It is very easy…………………………………………………………………………………………………………….,…..,…………….,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.,.,……..,,
Two. No meat, fish or egg eating.
Three. No illicit sex.
Four. No gambling
Five. No intoxication.
This is a venture with a golden future for a hard working, financial, honest and strong individual, gender male or female, preferably with previous Hare Krishna rerstauration experience and fixed up in Krishna consciousness. This is a long term venture, possibly a life time venture in a wonderful surrounding, with wonderful people.
Actually this could be triplicated with a Hare Krishna Restaurant in the south, in the Maroochydore / Moolloolaba area, another in the middle, in the Coolum area and Noosa. So three restaurant managers are required here. Same qualifications as described above. Your advancement in Krishna consciousness, your gradation and quality of Krishna consciousness will be the most important item in the mix. On a first come, first served basis. If interested please get in touch and we can talk further and supply more information. Thank you.
That is mäyä’s business. So there will be in the beginning test by the mäyä, and you will feel so much disturbances in making progress in Krishna consciousness. But if you remain steady… Steady means if you follow the rules and regulations and chant sixteen rounds, then you will remain steady. And if you neglect, then mäyä will capture you, immediately. Mäyä is always ready. We are in the ocean. At any moment, we will be disturbed. So therefore one who is not disturbed at all, he is called paramahamsa. 730412SB.NY
The injunction is kirtaniya sada hari, one should always be chanting all day. The 16 rounds is just a minimum 1 set for my disciples so they will chant at least that much. 740625let.Jagadisha
…wherever you remain do not forget to follow the four regulative principles and chanting at least 16 rounds daily. Then all other things will be manifested in you by the grace of Lord Krishna. 741208let.SaciMata
Please work with continued enthusiasm, strictly following the chanting of 16 rounds daily and maya will never be able to touch you. 741210let.Navayogendra
And be sure to chant sixteen rounds minimum, as a daily practice, and this will keep you most fitted Sankirtan leader. 730418let.DougRussell
We can understand from this incident that the most important point is that everyone especially the leaders, must always stick to the basic regulative practices that I have given, especially 16 rounds each day.
730518let.Bhagavan & 730518let.Hansadutta
Wherever you are, you should always be sure to chant at least 16 good rounds daily and to read my books very carefully, as well as following all the rules and regulations strictly.” 750106let.ChandravaliDD
“Always continue chanting 16 rounds and reading my books, observing all the rules and regulations and you will be strong in Krishna’s service.”750106let.Chitsukhananda
“Wherever you go always be sure to chant at least 16 good rounds and rise early, attend mangala-arati, study my books and serve Krishna without stop.” 750106let.Sucharu
“Main thing is to make sure everyone is chanting minimum sixteen rounds daily of Hare Krishna Mantra. Otherwise they will not be able to perform the other practices of brahminical life, such as early rising, cleanliness, etc.”720722let.jagadisha
So far your engagement is concerned, I am most satisfied to see that my books are being distributed profusely. Please always follow the four regulative principles and chant mnimum sixteen rounds per day. Study my books very carefull and prepare yourself fully for going back to home, BTG.
730520let.Arjuna
I simply request you to chant 16 rounds daily without fail and follow all the regulative principles. Rise early, attend temple functions and study my books carefully. Work closely and take advice from your elder godbrothers like the temple president and the GBC. 750101let.PhatikcandraDas
Please chant 16 rounds and follow the 4 regulative principles strictly and read my books with great care.
750101let.MrsScott
Please be very strict in following all the rules and regulations as well as chanting at least 16 good rounds daily and reading all my books thoroughly.
750104let.NrsimhaDas
Wherever you are, you should always be sure to chant at least 16 good rounds daily and to read my books very carefully, as well as following all the rules and regulations strictly. 750106let.Chandravali
Always continue chanting 16 rounds and reading my books, observing all the rules and regulations and you will be strong in Krishna’s service.
750106letChitsukhanand
Please do not fail to chant 16 rounds, rise early, read my books carefully and follow all the regulative principles. 750112let.Gandharva
Regarding your questions. I have already answered the most important question. “How to please Krishna?”—by following all the regulative principle that I have given you, chanting 16 rounds and reading my books scrutinizingly. Everyone must do these things, otherwise they cannot understand Krishna Consciousness.
750116let.Adikesava
Wherever you go always be sure to chant at least 16 good rounds and rise early, attend mangala-aroti, study my books and serve Krishna without stop. 750106let.SucharuDevaDasa
This problem that you have presented is not the kind of thing to present before the spiritual master. You should try to approach your GBC man, Jayatirtha prabhu in this matter. I am requesting again and again that all of my disciples simply follow all of the rules and regulations very strictly. Rising early, chanting 16 rounds, attending mangala arati and class, etc. are all essential for spiritual development. 750201let.Jagadisha
Krishna is giving you facility there to develop a very nice varna-asrama society in New Zealand. Try your best to develop an ideal society there to set a perfect example for the human society of how one can live very simply, chanting Hare Krishna and developing love for Krishna. Make sure that you keep the whole program pure by carefully following all of the rules and regulations that I have given, rising early, attending mangala arati and holding classes, chanting 16 rounds daily, observing the four basic principles, no intoxication, meat-eating, etc. Then everything will be a great success. 750202let.TustaKrishna
I hope that you are being very careful to strictly observe all of our basic rules and regulations such as rising early (before 4:00 AM), attending mangala arati and classes, chanting 16 rounds without fail and of course the four regulative principles. Without accepting these things seriously, there is no question of spiritual life. So, I hope you understand the utmost necessity of these things and are remaining pure in your activities. 750203let.Jivananda
To take shelter of the Spiritual Master means to follow his instructions. So, you should be very careful to not deviate even a little bit from the order of your Guru. You should be very careful to chant 16 rounds daily and read all of the books carefully. You should attend mangala arati and classes. And you should follow the four regulative principles without deviation. If you do these simple things, you will make steady advancement in Krishna Consciousness and there will be no fall downs. 750314let.Sivani
Continue all your programs there nicely, giving special stress to strictly following all of the rules and regulations especially the four regulative principles and chanting 16 rounds daily then everything will be very nice. 750401let.Manasvi
You will find that the more you involve yourself, the more you will understand our philosophy and then automatically you will be able to preach it nicely. Please continue to associate with devotees, read my books, follow all of the rules and regulations as well as chant at least 16 rounds daily and then everything else will follow automatically. 750408let.MrRao
The best thing for your wife is to try and tolerate the pains and to execute her devotional service to the best of her capacity. If this is difficult, then she should try to get the proper treatment for her problem. And in this case, you may consult with Jagadisa dasa for advice. Under any circumstances, she should follow all the rules and regulations and chant at least 16 good rounds daily. 750417let.Jitasvara
Bhagavan das and Brahmananda Swami have suggested that you go to London and collect the money for your ticket there and then immediately go to Africa to help there. I think that will be nice. Make sure that you follow all of the rules and regulations, and chant at least 16 rounds daily. That will make you out of the reach of Maya. 750417let.Lilavati
Do not be discouraged. Simply follow all of the rules and regulations very carefully. Rise early, attend mangala arati, attend class, chant 16 rounds and follow the four basic rules and regulations. This is most important. Without these things, there is no spiritual life. If your try sincerely, then Krishna will give you all blessings. 750509let.PavanaDevaDasa
Thank you for boldly infiltrating into the intellectual circles there. By attracting intelligent men to our movement, automatically, others will also be attracted to come. By preaching in this way, one becomes firmly convinced of the philosophy of Krishna Consciousness himself, and gradually it becomes easier and easier for him to convince others also. Most important thing is to follow all of the rules carefully, chant 16 rounds, and read our books carefully. This will make you spiritually strong. 750519let.DulaChandra
If you simply try to follow very carefully the prescribed method that has been chalked out for us in the vedas, refrain from eating meat, having illicit sex life, taking intoxications, and gambling, and try to chant 16 rounds on you beads daily, read our books regularly and discuss them, rise early, and eat only Krishna prasadam. By following this path and associating as much as possible with pure devotees, you will go back to your original state—pure spirit soul, eternal servant of Krishna. 750526let.TonyLindaetc…
I have given the information in my books, how to please the spiritual master. Simply by following the rules and regulations very carefully, by chanting at least 16 rounds daily, by reading our books, and by always engaging one’s self in the service of Krishna, a person will please the spiritual master and Krishna both. 750528let.Anangamanjari
Since I am overseas and cannot personally interview you, you please request Aksayananda Swami to recommend you to me for initiation, and then do the needful as he may suggest to you. By this process, it may be possible for you and your wife to be initiated as my disciples. We are very strict in the selection of disciples. We are not after large numbers. In order to be initiated by us, one has to chant at least 16 times around his japa beads daily (the Hare Krishna maha-mantra), he has to follow strict rules such as: no meat, fish, eggs, no intoxication—including tea and cigarettes, no illicit sex, and no gambling.750503let.MrSharma
Please see that they are all chanting 16 rounds on their beads and following the rules and regulations. We have to become very strict in this matter. To go back home, back to Godhead is not an easy thing. It requires great discipline of body and mind, and performance of pure devotional service. 75 0627let.Rsabdeva
You should hold a fire sacrifice and it is your responsibility to see that these devotees strictly follow the rules and regulations such as minimum chanting of 16 rounds daily and following the four regulative principles as well as attending the aroti and the classes. You should lecture to these devotees on the importance of this for their progress in spiritual life, otherwise they will again be carried away by maya. 751109let.Sukadevas
Enclosed is the sanctified mantra thread and mantra sheet. It is your responsibility as the president of the temple to see that these devotees strictly follow the rules and regulations such as chanting 16 rounds minimum on the beads. 16 is the minimum; one can chant more. There is no harm, but one at least must chant the fixed number of rounds. You should hold a fire sacrifice and they may hear the mantra from my recorded tape through the right year. The beads may be chanted on by Hamsaduta. 751110let.Alanath
A fire sacrifice should be held so the brahminical initiate can hear the mantra through the right ear from my recorded tape. You should impress upon them of the responsibility for following the rules and regulations and chanting 16 rounds minimum each day. This will save them from maya. No, there is no special name for your Gaura-Nitai Deities. 751112let.Gurudas
I am in due receipt of your letter and I am glad to know that you have a sincere interest in this Krsna consciousness movement. Now you should try to become strong in Krsna consciousness. The first thing is to chant 16 rounds minimum on the beads and it is best to do this in the association of others who also desire to progress in spiritual life. So you should try to remain at one of our temples; that will help you. You should also read my books very carefully and you should render service. Tad viddhi pranipatena/ pariprasnena sevaya [Bg. 4.34]. Service must be there. So you have to find out some service that you can render. Then your progress will be very quick. 751115let.Diglio
So, if you are strong enough to preach Krsna consciousness there, that is very good; that as long as you chant your 16 rounds and follow the four regulative principles, then you will get the strength. The process is that you should memorize the purports of my books and then speak them in your own words. Do not adulterate or change anything. Then you will be the perfect preacher. You should also distribute our books as far as possible. If you do this sincerely, then you will be successful. 751115let.Janjanmadhis
Upon your recommendation I am accepting the following two brahmacaris as my initiated disciples. And their names are Malcolm Perey is Yamunapata das and Monte Flynn is Kalatita das. It is your responsibility since you are recommending them that they follow strictly the rules and regulations and remain strong in Krsna consciousness. They must attend the mangala aroti and the Srimad-Bhagavatam class and Bhagavad-gita class and chant 16 rounds minimum daily and also follow the four rules and regulations. 751121let.Nalinikanta
Mr. Deoji Punja came to see me in Bombay. If any of the trustees are to be dropped, this has to be discussed between the trustees themselves. These are all important men and we should be careful lest they become offended. If I say something it will not look well. If some of the trustees are not abiding by the principles or not chanting 16 rounds, then they should be induced by the other trustees who are following, to step down. I think you can follow what I mean. 760107let.Madhudvisa
Now people are seeing how genuine our movement is, they are coming forward to offer us so many places. We simply have to maintain our strict principles, keeping ourselves pure, Otherwise, there are so many bogus institutions doing business in the name of God and simply cheating the people. We have to be careful not to degenerate like these others. Our strength depends upon regular chanting the required 16 rounds and rigidly adhering to the regulative principles. 760109let.Jasomatinandana
Anyway, all blessings upon you for securing this church. Krishna will certainly be pleased upon you. Now you and your good wife are both initiated, chant faithfully 16 rounds daily, and follow the four regulative principles. This will insure your spiritual perfection. 760110let.SubhaVilasa
Christianity is now declining, therefore they are having to sell all their churches to us. Because they have got no clear idea of God, people are not satisfied with them. But we can explain what God is, so people are appreciating more and more our Movement. Now by Krishna’s grace you have a beautiful Temple, use it to preach very vigorously. If you all strictly follow the principles and chant sixteen rounds, your spiritual strength will be insured, and our Movement will become increasingly prominent. 760110let.Visvakarma
Anyway, I have read your letter, and it is my opinion that you should return to Santa Cruz. But where ever you stay you must chant 16 rounds daily and strictly adhere to the regulative principles as well as try to study my books. 760115let.Chidananda
My advise is always chant 16 rounds minimum and follow the four regulative principles. All of my disciples must agree on this point otherwise they are not my disciples. Let one live anywhere, but stick to the principles. Disagreements will continue in this material world. So one may live in a suitable place, but one must follow these five principles. My disciples must follow these principles living either in heaven or hell. 760217let.RajaLaksmi
Now the new devotees must all be trained very nicely how to render devotional service by chanting 16 offenseless ds daily, and following the 4 regulative principles. Kindly set a nice example yourself for everyone and in this way make your lives perfect in full Krishna Consciousness. 760327let.CittaHari
Regarding the two initiations, on your recommendation I agree to accept Yasomatisuta das for second initiation. Enclosed you will find his brahmana thread, and a copy of the gayatri mantra. After the fire sacrifice, you should play a tape of the gayatri mantra into his right ear, teaching him how to count on the fingers the prescribed number of times. The brahmana should remain clean outside and inside by regular bathing and chanting of the Hare Krishna Mahamantra. Also, I agree to accept Bhakta Richard as my disciple. A disciple promises to refraim from the four pillars of sinful life: no illicit sex-life, no intoxication, no gambling, and no meat-eating. In addition, one must chant at least 16 rounds of japa daily and in this way progress in Krsna Consciousness. One promises before the spiritual master, the Deity, the fire, the devotees, the Supersoul, so it should very strictly be followed. You can have Gurukrpa Maharaja chant on his beads before the Fire Sacrifice, and present his beads to him at the time of the sacrifice. His spiritual name is Satyasena das. See that everyone is strictly following by presenting an ideal example yourself, and try to distribute these new Chinese Bhagavad-gita as much as you can. 760515let.Sevananda
You must remain strong by following the four regulative principles, and chanting 16 rounds of japa daily, and go on distributing my books unlimitedly in Europe. 760526let.Alanath
Hold a fire sacrifice and the initiates should refrain from the four pillars of sinful life: no illicit sex, no intoxication, no gambling, and no meat-eating. This is very easy when one chants daily their prescribed rounds seriously, at least 16 rounds daily. Enclosed you will also find one brahmana thread and gayatri mantra. After the sacrifice the tape of gayatri should be played in the right ear of the brahmana initiate. To become brahmana one must be clean outside and inside. Outside by regularly bathing and inside by always chanting Hare Krishna. The beads for first initiates can be chanted upon by Hrdayananda Maharaja and they should be given these beads and names at the time of initiation. 760705let.RadhaSarana
You may hold a fire yajna and at that time the names of the initiates as well as their beads chanted on by Gurukrpa Maharaja may be given. Make sure that they are well aware of the four rules and regulations and that they are fixed in chanting the prescribed number of 16 rounds daily on the beads. Without these two principles no one can make advancement on the path of regulated bhakti. Teach them the science of the Bhagavad gita and train them to be first class representatives of Krsna. It is not very difficult, simply one has to hear from the perfect authority who is in disciplic succession from Krsna Himself, and then repeat the same message without any change. If one does this then he is qualified to become guru. 760820let.Jayadharma
All initiates of mine must strictly follow the four principles of no meat, fish or egg, eating; no gambling; no intoxication of any kind; and no illicit sex. They must chant 16 rounds a day minimum with attention, clearly chanting the mantra, and listening very carefully. This is the recommended process for purifying the heart in this sinful age of Kali. Be serious to push on this sankirtana movement of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and certainly He will bless you and your life will become perfect, na ca tasman manusyesu kascit me priya-krtama, anyone who preaches this message of the Bhagavad-gita is the most dear servant of the Lord. 760826let.BhaktaDas
Thank you very much for your kind offer to have me as your Permanent Acarya and Honorary Chairman. I will accept this if your organization and members are agreed to follow the four regulative principles which discriminate animal life from human life, i.e. no eating of meat fish or eggs; no illicit sex life outside of marriage and then only for the begetting of God conscious children; no intoxicants, including coffee, tea, or cigarettes; no gambling, not even bingo. Unless one follows these principles, spiritual life is not possible.
I can give you all guidance and direction for there are millions of Christians in the world today. We are not concerned with how, so much as the fact that one must develop his dormant love for God. This is alright that you will chant the names of Christ for after all he was the representative of God. People are lost due to not following a bona fide religious system. If you can revive their God consciousness that will be very good service. 760908let.David
Upon your recommendation I will accept the following devotees as my initiated disciples. Please be sure that they know and follow the four regulative principles and that they always chant at least 16 rounds daily trying to avoid the 10 offenses. Hold a fire ceremony and have Kirtanananda Maharaja chant on their beads. 761022let.Kuladri also 761023let.BalaKrishna
With Your Royal consent and for today only we may rename this place Kingsland in lieu of Queensland. 🙂 And this afternoon in Noosa Heads, QLD, 4567, we shall have a special Hari Nam Party procession in Your honour as well, with our very best wishes of health and continued success for Yourself and family.
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare
Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.
October 8th, 2024 Throughout the Hari Nama Procession we displayed the following sign:
But there was hardly any reaction from the public. People here are mostly concerned with the 3 Ss: Sun, Surf and Sand.
That’s him. Let us wipe his smart Alec grinning off his face.
Jayadvaita’s attempt to present Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad Gita As It Is is actually a criminal enterprise, because there is a wilful corruption of the original text with intention to cheat and to mislead.
This can easily be proven in a court of law, if it comes to that.
And all those who support him in full knowledge of the facts are of the same criminal nature.
Therefore, one should be very careful to be well informed before taking a side and THE GOOD PEOPLE WILL DEFINITELY SIDE AGAINST HIM, because his behaviour is that of a criminal, a traitor, an impersonalist (the worst calamity) and an imposter. He should JUST GO AWAY. GO AWAY Jayadvaita. Chello Jayadvaita, chello chello ……..
I have published a very long list of corruptions in my article “Hayagriva, Jayadvaita and supporters beware!!!”, available here:
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